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That's fine Stefan.  The system is working well at the moment and I am happy to wait for this little improvement.

In the meantime - Fröhliche Weihnachten!

Kerry

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Stefan

Thanks to all your emails, I got my collections up and running on my TT.  It's a fantastic system!  Now I'm ready to start some serious upgrading to the engine with the confidence of real-time monitoring of temperatures and pressures.

The only thing I would ask is if you would let me know when you are able to recode the firmware to convert lambda values to air:fuel ratio, preferably with a single decimal point.  The graph is good, but I find it a lot easier to read 12.2 than 0.963!

Thank you for all your help and a great product,

Kerry

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I tried uploading the current firmware, but same as before.  The screen freezes and won't do anything.  I then uploaded the earlier (2015) version again and everything was fine except for its limitations with Collections and Graph view.

I tried it several times to make sure, with the same result.  The data transfers through Tera Term but nothing shows on the screen except ambient temp (middle section) and kms to empty (bottom section).  The older version worked as normal every time

Car: Audi TT Mk 1 (2001 model), 225 quattro convertible.

I was using a value from the engine controller for my coolant temperature.  I changed to a value from the Instruments controller so I could have it on the same screen as oil temperature and ambient.  However, it reads a slightly different temperature - 2 or 3 degrees higher than the other one.  I haven't tracked it down precisely, but I think the first one is taken from the radiator OUTLET, the second from the radiator INLET (ie before the coolant has been through the radiator).

You can't have both on the same screen but it looks as if this is a way to check on the efficiency of the radiator.  Does that sound likely?  A difference of only 3 degrees?

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stefan@fis-control wrote:

This should work with the current firmware.

I don't think the current firmware will work with my ecu.  The previous firmware I uploaded  ( http://fis-control.de/files/2015-10-04_ … ontrol.fw) works fine except for this small problem, plus as you said in your email the earlier firmware does not support the Collection feature.

If you remember, when I uploaded the latest version of firmware, my screen went blank and only came back when I uploaded the earlier version.

Are you saying I should return to the latest version again?  Was it just a temporary problem with this version?  To put it another way, are you sure my screen will not go blank again if I reload the latest firmware?

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One more thing Stefan
The Graph view (for Air:Fuel Ratio) is still not working properly.  As before, the line appears only at the extreme right of the screen.
Do you have enough information to suggest a fix?

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Stefan
I have written a version of the Configurator for viewing Collections.  I'm not certain if I've got it right.  I wonder if you could check it for me?
I don't think I can send attachments on the forum, so I'll try attaching the file to an email and sending that to your email address with an explanation of what I'm trying to do. It's an internet DAT file so I don't know if it will work
Kerry

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I loaded the older version of the firmware you sent me and everything is back to normal.  I entered the presets manually on the stalk.  See next post for further question.

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kermac wrote:

I will have to check the value in adaptation channel 62 and get back to you.  I can probably access it with vcds.

I guess I will also be able to access the part number and software version of the cluster in the same way.  I know the previous owner replaced the entire instrument unit some years ago because of pixel failure as well as coolant temp gauge and fuel gauge failure, but the new numbers should show up on vcds.

I didn't have time to load the older version of firmware before it got dark.  It's difficult working in the car after dark

I finally got my car back from the workshop (further repairs after collision with kangaroo).  I checked the value in adaptation channel 62 - it's 15.  Part number of the cluster (KOMBI + WEGFAHRS) M73 D56, Software coding 07744.

However, this is no longer so important - see next post...

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stefan@fis-control wrote:

You have cleared the user settings with TeraTerm. That includes the "User Mods". So I don't think that you have a problem there.

Do you remember what value you have set in the adapatation channel 62 of your instrument cluster? Is it 15?
Do you know the part number and software version of your cluster?

I will have to check the value in adaptation channel 62 and get back to you.  I can probably access it with vcds.

I guess I will also be able to access the part number and software version of the cluster in the same way.  I know the previous owner replaced the entire instrument unit some years ago because of pixel failure as well as coolant temp gauge and fuel gauge failure, but the new numbers should show up on vcds.

I didn't have time to load the older version of firmware before it got dark.  It's difficult working in the car after dark

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Stefan

I was just reading some other threads in the forum.  The one by Trivium88 (last post 29 Sept 2016) seems to be a similar one to mine.  FIS-Control does not appear on the screen and is not responsive to the buttons on the wiper stalk.  You solved it by removing User Mods which shouldn't have been in there.

Is there any chance mine could be a similar problem?  I haven't tried to load the old firmware yet  but will do so if I have time once I get home this evening.

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It is almost midnight on Sunday night here and I need to go to work in the morning so I won't have much time to do anything to the car for a few days.

As you say, the problem seems to be that the FIS-Control has not gone back into normal operation mode.  Something has happened to lock the screen into a fixed position which I seem unable to recover from. 

Thank you for your help so far.  I would not have been able to get to this point without you - but on the other hand, whatever has happened has left me in a worse position than before.  I wonder if there is something unique about the electronics in the TT?  It is not a very common model and I realise that you did not support it until a few months ago.

I'm not sure how to arrange a remote session in the car - you mean a video-type transmission?  Or a data download of some kind?  I think a video will only show me putting the key in the ignition, pressing the reset button, turning the ignition on, pressing the up button etc.   Not much can go wrong there. 

I'm not very smart with computers, but installing the FIS-Control into the car was quite easy.  Much easier than the cruise control which I found very difficult.  Bad installation manual, trying to install micro pins into connectors almost too small to see, stuff that turned out different to what was supposed to happen.

I will do whatever I can to get FIS-Control working again, but I guess I'm going to need your ongoing help to do it.  I'll try loading the old firmware and see  if that works.  I may get some time tomorrow evening.

And so to bed...

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stefan@fis-control wrote:

Hm, I'm running out of ideas.

Are you able to operate the board computer with the wiper stalk?
Have you changed anything on the coding of the cluster?

I said No, I hadn't changed the coding.  But of course I had to change the software coding when I first installed FIS-Control in the car, as stated in the installation instructions.

I checked my records and remembered I installed a cruise control several months ago.  To activate it, I had to enter 11463 in the Component field when connected to the engine module according to my installation notes.

Do you think this would have made any difference when I tried to install the new firmware?  I don't know enough about it to see if there could be a connection

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Stefan

I'd like to get back to my earlier screen if that's possible.  If the new firmware isn't going to work, maybe we can find a solution in the future.  It would be great if I could get Collections working and have several values on the screen at the same time. 

In the meantime, I will settle for just one value on the screen and the ability to switch it on and off and to use my board computer as normal.

However, I think the problem was not in upgrading the firmware but in pressing the reset key and switching on the ignition.  That's when the system stopped working.

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No I can't operate the board computer.  The top screen is blank, the middle one shows Ambient Air temp, the lower one shows Distance Remaining to empty (both factory settings).  I can't change it, and I can't switch the screen off.

I don't know how to change the coding of the cluster.  The only thing I have done is to connect vcds (via cable) so I could watch my coolant temp. 

The cluster screen was working fine (without any Collection data, so with the earlier version of the firmware) until I pressed the reset button the first time and turned on the ignition a few days ago, I think on 17 Nov.  Since then the cluster screen has not changed and I have no FIS-Control data on the screen

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Tried this (three times) exactly as you said. No change

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OK - I sent the firmware file.  It took about 1 min 30 sec.  Then I switched off the ignition, pressed the down button, switched on the ignition, reopened TeraTerm.  The screen was blank, and I typed CLEAR SETTINGS. Nothing appeared on the Tera Term screen.  I assumed nothing was happening, but after trying this a few times I pressed enter anyway.  The screen almost immediately said USER SETTINGS CLEARED (or similar).

I then turned off the ignition, turned it on again and did a long press of the up button on the stalk.  Nothing changed!  I tried this a couple more times but still nothing.  I just have the outside temp and Kms to Empty, nothing else on the screen.

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Are you sure I can upload the firmware even when there is nothing on the cluster screen?  I can't set the FIS-Control to Receive data because I can't change the settings on he cluster screen.

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stefan@fis-control wrote:

Please follow the following steps. If the result is not as described, please ask me before you try anything else.
- turn off the ignition
- press and hold the reset button on the bottom of the wiper stalk and turn on the ignition
- use TeraTerm to send the current  firmware file to the FIS-Control (http://fis-control.de/files/2016-11-12_-_fis_control.fw)
- after the file is transferred successfully, turn of the ignition

- Done, but the cluster screen was still blank apart from board computer displays.  There was nothing on FIS Control to say it had received any data.

stefan@fis-control wrote:

- press and hold the down button on the side of the wiper stalk and turn on the ignition
- reopen TeraTerm and connect to the COM port of the FIS-Control
-> you won't see the typical "C" letter in the TeraTerm windows, that is ok
- enter "CLEAR SETTINGS" in the TeraTerm window (without the double quotes) and press enter

I connected with the COM port (same port as before).  The screen was full of Cs.  I couldn't enter anything on the screen, couldn't delete the Cs.  I tried File - New Connection and re-set to another COM Port.  Same result.

stefan@fis-control wrote:

-> you should see a confirmation in the TeraTerm windows, like "DONE"
- turn off the ignition
- turn on the ignition
- do a long press on the up key at the side of the wiper stalk
-> FIS-Control main menu should appear on the cluster screen

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No I don't have a smart phone at all.  My wife has an Android but I don't use it.  Can the app be downloaded to a laptop?

I have an overheating problem with the engine of my TT and I want to keep track of it on the cluster.  I can also check it on vcds with my laptop but that means carrying the laptop in the car all the time.

It's getting into our summer and the overheating is getting worse, so I am keen to get FIS-Control operating again. 

Is there a simple fix?  My cluster/DIS screen has been useless since I pressed the reset button on my washer stalk and turned on the ignition as suggested above.

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stefan@fis-control wrote:

kermac wrote:

I pressed the reset button and turned on the ignition.  But nothing appeared on the screen.

That is normal. The FIS-Control will not show anything on the screen when it is on software loading mode.

To recover your FIS-Control, set it into software loading mode again:
- press and hold the reset button on the bottom of the wiper stalk and turn on the ignition
- use TeraTerm to send the firmware file to the FIS-Control

I assume that you changed the communication channel between the FIS-Control and the cluster. That's why the FIS-Control doesn't appear on the screen anymore.
To set it back again:
- press and hold the down button on the side of the wiper stalk and turn on the ignition
- press the up button one time
- restart the ignition (without holding any button)
- Now start the FIS-Control normally (long press on the up button)

I did not change the communication channel.  The FIS-Control was not even in receive mode because there was nothing on the screen to read.

I tried to set it back again as above, in fact I tried several times.  But nothing happened.  The only thing I have on the screen is the ambient temp and distance to empty (both on the computer board - top part empty.  I cannot turn the display off with the reset button, nor can I change the bottom display (distance to empty) with the up or down buttons. Nothing seems to work.

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stefan@fis-control wrote:

If you haven't updated to the current firmware, I suggest to do that.
You can find the firmware on my website. To upload it, press and hold the reset button on the bottom side of the wiper stalk and turn on the ignition. Now transfer the firmware file with TeraTerm, just the same way you do for the config file.
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I pressed the reset button and turned on the ignition.  But nothing appeared on the screen.  I tried it again, tried pressing the up button twice, started the engine, switched off the engine and switched on the ignition again without pressing the reset button.

I pressed the up button, the down button, held them in for five seconds, pressed thwm twice for long and short times.  In short, I tried every possible combination but my FIS-Control display has disappeared since I first turned on the ignition today.

How do I get my display back?  And how to upload the current firmware without losing the display again??

Thanks Stefan

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Yes it's a wideband sensor.  How do I check how the FIS-Control outputs the sensor data?

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Still working on this Stefan...

First - all groups/values in a collection must come from the same controller, right?  eg 01 Engine or 17 Instruments?  Or can you mix controllers in the same collection?

Second, what is the maximum number of characters for the labels?  I have been working on 13 with individual value displays, but the pictures in the latest manual suggest Collections will be different.  The first two pictures are of colour screens where the number of characters seems to vary with the length of the value + unit (ie "Luftdruck 970.0 MBAR" or "Regime Moteur 0 RPM".  The third picture is a monochrome screen (like mine) where the size of the font is larger and it only seems to allow 2-3 (or possibly up to 5-6) characters.  Can this be changed by the user or is it determined by the type of screen in your car?

And one more question - this is not clear in the Manual.  Can the values in a collection only be the ones already in the presets?  ie are you limited to a total of nine values in the four collections, just displayed in different combinations?  If more than nine, how do you input the labels for each value in a collection?  Do you use the boxes at the bottom of the Configurator?

Thanks again

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Thanks Stefan.  I have a Zeitronix ZT-2 in my other Audi, but in the TT I'm taking my fuel ratio reading directly from the engine controller through the FIS Control.  I could drill the manifold and weld in a bung for an AFR sensor, but on the TT that's a major job.  Probably requires taking the engine out...

I'll wait for the future firmware upgrade.  In the meantime I'll load your latest upgrade and try and get the graph working.

Cheers