Bug? Default group selection when changing ECU

Hi Stefan,

If I've manually changed control unit and then go to Measurements then I always want to go to 01... it's already a lot of button presses.

In a Preset (for me almost always a collection)
Press Set to get main menu
Go to Settings
Go to Control Unit
Select control unit
Back to Settings
Back to Main Menu
Go to Measurement
- displays "Connecting..."
Get some random group number because you don't know which group was last read in the collection

I never want to go from (for example) group 02 in one control unit to group 02 in a different control unit because there are none in my car that are compared like this. Maybe you do this more often in vehicles with CAN connected to the FIS-Control? For me, as each preset can only show values from one control unit I have almost all of them from the ECU to avoid many different connect/disconnect cycles when scrolling through them.

I don't think I understand your example. I agree when switching from preset to measurement that it's useful to go back in the same group, but if I change control unit and then go straight into Measurement I always always want to look from the start of that control unit. If I went in Presets it would change control unit again..?

Yes, I could make a preset of E22/G001 but that only makes it shorter to change control unit. By definition any time I change control unit by hand, it's because I want to check a group I don't check often enough to have as a preset!

Another good reason - my ABS controller seems to have a bug where it stops communicating if you ask it for a group outside the range 01-07. I didn't manage to make it work until today so I hadn't set the masks for that unit! This might explain some odd "cannot communicate" bugs as you don't display which group you requested until after communication is established...

Maybe this could be a tweak so users can choose?

Nick

Thank you! Sorry if I didn't explain very well.

Hi Stefan!

Sorry for missing this post, I didn't have notifications turned on...

Thank you for adding this feature. It has solved half of my problem!
I have upgraded to fw 2020-11-22 and tried Settings->Save Settings with my "favourite" groups for each control unit. Now, like you say, if I am in Measurement and then go to Settings->Control Unit, change to a different unit and then select Measurement again, it jumps to the stored Group. This is much more useful! The ABS controller doesn't crash any more when the FIS Control tries to connect to it.

However this still does not quite work in my normal use case.
Example: I have Group 002 stored as the "favourite" for my AWD controller on Control Unit 22.
For this Control Unit the mask shows groups 001, 002, 050, 051, 052 [etc].
Most of my Presets are Collections, but I have some single values and Measurements too.
Say I am looking at a Preset which shows a Measurement, E01 Group 031 (fuel-air ratios).
Test 1) If I now enter the menu and select Measurement, I see E01 G 031 - fine, normal, useful. I think this is the most useful behaviour if the Preset is a Measurement.

Test 2) If I instead enter the menu and select Settings->Control Unit->AWD (22), then go back out of Settings and select Measurement, I do not see my stored group G002, but instead the closest available (unmasked) group to G031 which happens to be G050. I think it would be better if this showed the group I stored...

Test 3) Looking at a Preset which is a Collection (six different values all from E01), if I press Reset to get the menu and then choose Measurement, I get a random Group from the six which were used in the collection. I think if you go from a Collection straight to a Measurement it should first show the stored Group, not a random choice from the Collection.

Does that make sense? I can attach my configuration if I didn't explain well. Oder vielleicht könnte ich versuchen, es auf Deutsch erklaren

Thank you!

Nick

Ah! I had misunderstood what you meant by "stored group". I thought this was saving a default group for each different ECU in the new software. I think I get it now, thank you for explaining.

Test 3: Yes, I think it would be better if you always used a consistent "last group" when moving from a Collection to a Measurement. This would take away the random element.

Maybe if you always used the first item in the collection? Then I could order the collections differently to always go directly and quickly to a chosen group, to see the other values in that group which weren't part of the collection.

I have attached my config so you get an idea of how I use it

Hi Stefan,

See this short video. Before the video started I selected E01 G050 and did Save Settings, then exited to BC.

- Opened FIS Control menu by long-press of Up key
- Selected Measurement: got E01 G050
- Did Settings/Save Settings again (just to show it happened)
- Back to Measurement and selected G051 to see if I got the current group or the saved group
- Changed Control Unit to AWD (22), opened Measurement: got group 001. I was expecting either 050 or 051.
- Selected E22 G051
- Changed control unit to Engine (01), opened Measurement: got group 001. Again I was expecting 050 or 051.

Does this help? Maybe I still don't quite understand.

Nick