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Ja, für alle A6 4G (VFL und FL) sollte man jetzt das FIS-Control MIB bestellen.

Für den Einbau muss man sich Strom und Diagnose-CAN hinten an der OBD-Buchse abgreifen.
Zudem braucht man noch den Komfort-CAN. Meiner Meinung nach, kann man sich den am besten vom Klimabedienteil abgreifen.

Hi John, thanks for you input.

I developed such a CAN filter board a while ago. See here: https://fis-control.de/punBB/viewtopic. … 3507#p3507
It is actually only considering the 0x6C0 and 0x6C1 messages. Because these are the messages that are in conflict with the FIS-Control.

Together with some help from the German rs-quattro.de forum, we do group buys for the CAN filter hardware from time to time. Last batch was built last month.

Hi, du könntest mal schauen, aus welchem Steuergerät du die Multifunktionstasten des Lenkrads abfragen kannst. Wichtig für mich wäre, welches Diagnose-Protokoll das entsprechende Steuergerät spricht. Also KWP2000 oder UDS.

Here are some details how to use the CAN-bridge to filter the conflicting CAN messages from the RNS-E in an Audi A3 8P, TT 8J and Audi R8 in order to use the FIS-Control.

If the CAN bridge is installed and the ignition is turned on, the cluster will only get the CAN messages from the FIS-Control. The CAN messages from the nav are blocked.

If you do a longer drive with guidance and want to see the directions of the nav on the cluster, you can press and hold the up key of the wiper stalk while you turn on the ignition. Now all messages from the nav are forwarded to the cluster. The FIS-Control will stay inactive until the ignition is turned on the next time.

The CAN bridge has a 9 pin Sub-D connector.

Pinout:
Pin 1 = 12V Battery voltage (terminal 30)
Pin 2 = CAN (low) to nav
Pin 3 = CAN (low) to cluster
Pin 4 = goes to pin 3 (TxD) of the RS-232 (for software update)
Pin 5 = goes to pin 2 (RxD) of the RS-232 (for software update)
Pin 6 = GND and pin 5 (GND) of the RS-232
Pin 7 = CAN (high) to nav
Pin 8 = CAN (high) to cluster
Pin 9 = do not connect

Attached is the firmware for the CAN bridge.

To transfer the software to the CAN bridge, at least pin 1 (12V) and pin 6 (GND) and also the RS-232 to a laptop has to be connected.
Please pay attention that the laptop and CAN bridge share the same ground connection, so connect pin 6 of the bridge also to pin 5 of the RS-232.

Update instructions:
Start TeraTerm on the laptop and select the used COM port and select the baudrate 115200 bps (Setup -> Serial port).
Turn on the ignition and select FILE -> SEND FILE and enable the BINARY option. Now send the file delete_firmware_cmd.hex.
If you don't have a CAN bus connected to the CAN bridge yet, you have to do that within 5 seconds after powering the bridge, else it will enter sleep mode.

Now turn off and on the ignition. You will now see the letter C arriving once per second in TeraTerm. This indicates that the CAN bridge is waiting for a new firmware.
Use TeraTerm with FILE -> TRANSFER -> XMODEM -> SEND and select the attached .fw file.

After transfer is finished, turn off the ignition.

Next time you turn on the ignition, you should be able to use the FIS-Control. Please make sure that the selected communication channel in the FIS-Control settings is "Navigation". You may also want to enable the modification "CAN-BRIDGE". This modification will allow to see the output of the nav on the FIS display when the up button of the wiper control stalk is pushed while turning on the ignition.

Even for the Ampire device it is hard to tell how it works. I have not found informations, to which CAN bus it has to be connected. My guess is, it's the convenience CAN and the powertrain CAN. So it would not be in conflict with the FIS-Control.

Hm, maybe it's a voltage drop that restarts the FIS-Control.
I could add an uptime counter to the FIS-Control. So you could have a look at it, next time the problem occurs.
If the counter was started again, then you know that the FIS-Control did a restart.

Nein, für das MMI 2G hat sich nicht ergeben. Ist auch bisher nicht geplant. Sorry.

Hier ein Startlogo für alle TDI-Fahrer.

Yes, that is right. Maybe the roller generates an unintentional click from time to time.
If you want, you can disable the "Roller" feature and check if the unwanted switch is seen again.

Du kommst nicht zufällig aus meiner Nähe (63667 Nidda), so dass man sich mal treffen könnte? Ein Testgerät hätte ich da.
Hauptsächlich muss ich nur noch die CAN-Botschatften vom Multifunktionslenkrad rausfinden, damit das FIS-Control auch bedient werden kann.

Hi, great theme. Very nice.
Another user also posted his design here: https://fis-control.de/punBB/viewtopic. … 3445#p3445
Until now, there is no gallery. Maybe I will install a topic for that in this forum.

The Back To The Future theme is already prepared in the current firmware. One thing I have to solve is the mapping of the measurement values. If I find some time, I will do some last work on that design and enable it for all in one of the next firmware versions.